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Feco…From Bodyworker to Cannabis Oil Maker – Interview With Robin Swan

Robin Swan manages a company that is hands-on with herbal compounding, using the CBD to reduce inflammation in the cells and nerves. She explains that humans are designed to receive cannabinoids and that before even the industrial revolution, every whole food had hemp in it.

People believe CBD is the new magic pill since it helps cure diseases, headaches, and chronic issues. However, it’s not just CBD that’s doing the work – the hemp plant has both THC and CBD, and an entire chain following. This means that it’s the hemp in its entirety that does the work; isolating the CBD molecule does not mean a higher quality product.

Robin explains that the hemp plant is a great way to restore the quality of your nerve system in a cleanse. However, it’s also important to have a good diet, drink water, and sleep well to see the benefits of cannabinoids. Organic foods cannot fight synthetic foods; to see the full benefits of hemp oil, it’s essential to adopt a healthy lifestyle as well. Many people mention that nothing happens after taking cannabis oil – but that’s precisely it: the pain disappears, and you feel healthy. Your knee will stop hurting, you’ll stop getting headaches, and you won’t have many chronic illnesses. Such are the immense health benefits of the hemp plant.

CBD because it just not had bad psychotropic experience as THC does, can feed our nerve system. Simply do that much, and that you know, you say that ‘Oh, it’s no big deal.’ Are you freaking kidding me? That’s no big deal. You are your nerve system, and you cannot feed it any other way.– Robin Swan

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Some Topics We Discussed Include:

[02:43] – Robin Swan’s backstory, how she was introduced to the CBD industry

[07:02] – Her thoughts on CBD oil as a product, how to use it, how effective is it, and the process it goes through until it is ready for market consumption

[15:39] – CBD as the new magic pill

[22:03] – Misconceptions about CBD and what is the truth about this Cannabis extract

[27:04] – CBD isolate, CBD distillate, and Full Spectrum: Their differences and what the truth is about them

[31:55] – Thoughts on moving away from the pharmaceutical industry and traditional medical system

[35:49] – Suggested dosage of CDB per milligram for each person a day

[37:43] – What do you experience after using CBD, its benefits to your body

[40:50] – Robin’s parting words: Eat your Cannabinoids every day, drink clean water and laugh. The best medicine is laughter. I said that all the time. Make sure you have a high level of laughter in your life.”

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Sonia Gomez: This is your one-stop shop to get the nitty gritty deep dive into the health and cannabis business, the fastest growing cash-rich industry in the world. And today, we are going to be interviewing Robin Swan, one of the many pioneers in the industry with an 80% success rate when working with patients and fully extracted cannabis oil. In this episode, you’re going to learn precisely what fat cow is and how it’s being used as nature’s best medicine. And without further ado, help me welcome the founder of Firebird Therapy.

Sonia Gomez: I am dyslexic as all well, let her introduce her family friend. I’ve literally been friends for 20 I might. She’s been friends with my mother for maybe 35 years. Therefore, knowing you the whole of my life and she’s really the person that I plug into when I need to understand more about what I’m doing, how I’m doing it, and who I’m serving. So without further ado, help me welcome Robin Swan. Hi Robin.

Robin Swan: Hi. Thank you, Sonia. Sorry. Yeah, it’s okay. So a lot of words, you know? Yeah, it’s a fire or something, man. Firebird Touch Therapy. That’s the name of it. 

Sonia Gomez: Perfect. So since I butchered the introduction, why don’t you go ahead and take a second and just introduce who you are, what your company is, and what are you doing in the industry?

Robin Swan: My name is Robin Swan, and I have a multitude of different degrees. My background starts with neuromuscular therapy, uh, with an emphasis on spinal cord repair and brain trauma. So I’m also in North American herbalist and have been compounding herb since I’ve been standing. I started messing with cannabis very, very long ago when I was a young girl and I’ve been really blessed at this time in my life to be able to come out from underneath the blankets, so to speak, to be able to come forth and not, you know, not necessarily lie, but not necessarily give the full truth about it. So it’s been a really exciting last decade, last decade for me and the growth of my company, which has gone from like more from hands-on to herbal compounding.

So one of the things that we were at the forefront of was the CBD healing because I knew from a very early age that CBD reduces employee. She goes to cell inflammation in the cell, and it repairs the Myelin sheath of the nerve. Now that doesn’t sound like a lot except for when you’re creating as a human being, the first thing that you are is a nerve. That’s the first thing that we are. When egg and sperm collide, they start creating a neuro-net, and then they make The Spine and then out of the spine grows the brain.

So when you say things like, I’m a bundle of nerves, you’re not kidding because your nerve endings go throughout your entire body and they are wrapped in something called my one. When that starts to fray and break apart, then the nerve pulse, the oxygen and the pulmonary pulse to that area begin to dissipate, and that organ or cell structure begins to die. And that’s where we get things like chronic pain, and that develops cancer is in the death of those cells and the transmutation of them through the whole of your life.

The Differences Between Hemp and Cannabis

Robin Swan: And this is, this is a really important work that you and, and the way that you represented I think is really super powerful as well. Like you have ancestral teaching Excellence and connection to plant medicines and one of these plant medicines that you have been specializing with and healing with cannabis and hemp. I have to say that as a differentiator for compliance reasons for sure.

Robin Swan: And because there are two, there are two very different plants as well. When they both like I like to tell people to do like having one arm or do you like both their arms because that’s how the cannabis and to have are there, you know, they’re not the same, and they’re part of the same body.

Sonia Gomez: Yes, yes. And there are small differentiators which you guys know from watching the of one of the modules in here where we talk about the small differentiators; there are three categories. Some are specifically bred for their THC content, some hemp physical explicitly debated for its fibrous materials, more industrial hemp. And now there is a whole new movement happening where 55% of him that is being cultivated right now is specifically for the cannabinoid cannabidiol or CBD, which is the thing that is taking center stage right now and becoming the new vitamin C of the, of the world.

Sonia Gomez: Robin has a lifetime of experience working with this family of plants and most recently has branched off in creating that specifically the CBD oil. So I wanted to bring her onto that. I wanted to bring you on today, Robin, because I believe that there’s a lot of misconceptions, misunderstandings, Bad buzzwords flying around. I like to call it techno bubble, and it’s quite confusing, especially when it comes to how do I effectively use this product to manage, I can’t say treat or heal, but to manage my syndrome and the symptoms that are associated with it.

CBD as a Product: Uses, Effectiveness, and Process 

Sonia Gomez: That’s the big burning question, right? Is it isolated as a distillate, do I use full spectrum? What is the difference between the two and what’s going to be the most effective? So I would love to hear from you since you have so much experience with this, your opinion around CBD you know and talk to us a little bit about the process that it goes to before it ends up looking like a tincture or a vaporizer for a secondary extraction. So we were kind of at the forefront of extracting CBD in the cannabis industry. I was one of the first people to start recognizing it as a real value.

Robin Swan: And that complicated station came out of a misunderstanding of a scientific misunderstanding of breast cancer and THC driving estrogen and therefore, making estrogen resistant cancers more, um, aggressive. So I have to say this every time I get the opportunity to say it isn’t true, it’s just not true. So THC doesn’t do that, but what CBD does is something that THC can do. And one of the things I like to really express to people is that when you look at the molecular structure of the Plot for starting for molecules, two of them are THC and 32 of them are CBD.

CBD vs. THC: The Difference Explained

Robin Swan: So who’s doing the work? You see this really during the work. And we have one receptor where we have CB1 and CB2 receptors right in our body. So then the CB one is all over the body, and that’s the one that really absorbs CBD. So we are genetically designed and encoded to receive Cannabinoids. That’s exactly how we’re designed. And when we were, you know, long ago before the industrial revolution, all of our materials are, are fibers hemp, are, you know, are whole food was have based, you know, we probably had hemp milk, we’re wearing heavy clothing.

Robin Swan: So all of this is you know, CBD rich even though it’s, you know, whatever, it’s still getting into the biggest tongue, or skin and we’re, and that as they start to remove this thing called hemp and they start replacing it with cotton, we start getting sicker and sicker and sicker. So it’s that simple. How it feeds the system and when it’s ultimately doing is repairing the Myelin Sheath. So like I said, you know, you’re just a great big nerve pathway and over your nerve is a sheet-like a glove. And when that glove is present over the nerve, the nerve is able to send, it’s false and inspiring and be healthy.

The Mistake Made When Isolating CBD

Robin Swan: But as with stress is one of the greatest ways to break down in Myelin Sheath. And then there’s accidents and illness, and you know, autoimmune deficiency, all of these things spray our nerve system and as the nerve and sprayed it starts to die. And what’re cannabinoids do, CBD is they repair that sheath. They literally lit her, me repair the Myelin sheath. Now that’s phenomenal because they have not yet and nor will they ever be able to duplicate it in a lab.

Sonia Gomez: Yeah, It cannot be synthetically produced. And this was really interesting. I was speaking to Dr. Emek Blair who was actually making the ‘corporate to cannabis jump’ right now, specializing specifically in hemp and is you know, well versed with liposomal technology and delivery system and all of this thing. 

We were talking about his experience working in Big Pharma and creating nutraceuticals and he was saying that big Pharma is making somewhat of a mistake by completely isolating out only CBD because once you isolated away from everything else its effective, but only for so long there’s a ticking time bomb and then it stops to be effective.

So, and he was explaining that we don’t really know like you’re saying right now, 34 molecules, 32 of them are CBD, only two of them are THC. You know, how do we know who’s doing all of the work? We can make our assumptions based on what we see on a microscope. Right? But what about the other 300 molecules that are inside or cannabioids that are present inside of the cannabis plant? We don’t know which ones are most effective. And so far THC and CBD are the ones that are most heavily studied right now. So well

Robin Swan: It’s because they’re the parents. Like if you look at a tree of life right there, I didn’t parent. So underneath THC and CBD. Then we have like, you know, CBG, CBN, you know, so to understand that it’s like a chain that comes down that they’re there, the parents, but there’s a chain that falls below them. You can’t be bored.

Sonia Gomez: Yeah. Wow. That’s such, that’s the phone time or energy. Yeah, no, that was mind-blowing. I got to take pause cause my own mind was rolling right now I haven’t heard it explained like that. And I don’t know if you know this, but like all dark hair right here, I have blonde roots. So like I’m a little bit ditzy sometimes. And when I’m listening to someone’s a liar.

Robin Swan: She does not, I’ve known her.

Sonia Gomez: but sometimes I have to think about things.

Robin Swan: Well I mean it’s so fascinating. That’s the wonderful thing about where we’re at in the industry is that it’s involved in science and you know, I do a bottom or redirecting from RSO and that conversation. But when Rick brought that information up, it was like, it was just like that.

Robin Swan: It was like what you know, and now 15 years or even more, we’re like a little bit, even more than 15 years from that place. You know, we’ve learned so much that it’s inconsequential when you said, you know, I mean there’s some value in it, but his methodology and his dosing structure wrong and only wrong because we have evolved in our knowledge of it.

So it’s such a super, I tell people all the time, well this is what I’m telling you today, but check back tomorrow because of my sincerely that way. I mean it’s just like we don’t really know. We don’t really know. So it’s exciting and I think when you’re looking for products in the industry to use, you know, make sure that reputable with some science back, there’s just a lot, there’s a lot of good stuff coming in. You know, the regulation that was kind of unhappy about, I just had someone explain it to me today.

‘This is the new Vitamin C’- the Magic Pill

Robin Swan: It’s not to get rid of the good people, it’s to get rid of The Schmooze. And there’s been a lot of schmooze in her industry and now in the CBD industry, there’s a whole lot. It’s much because now it’s like you said, it’s the new vitamin C, it’s the new acai berries, it’s that new, whatever, the new Goji Berries, then you go to because one thing for sure in America for sure in Western civilization, we want to put something in our mouth and boom, I’m an instant fix.

Sonia Gomez: Knowing that we weren’t that we have the magic pill.

Robin Swan: We want the magic pill. It starts now.

Sonia Gomez: So this is a perfect segway because inside of the training I talk about a theory called the multi-pronged approach, right? So ultimately the big selling point of CBD is homeostasis. It’s going to help you achieve perfect balance in your body. 

But my question is how do you go from, you know, how do you go from chronic inflammation, autoimmune disease, diabetes, a lot. — these are a lot of the issues that people come to me with. And I’m sure you hear duplicates of this all the time. Anything from cancer recovery to chronic headaches too, you know, have my thyroid is dead. I was just diagnosed with Hashimoto’s, chronic digestive conditions. And they’re like, I heard that if I take CBD that I’ll be able to sleep at night. I heard if I take CBD that I’ll stop having heartburn. And I’m like, yeah, okay, perfect. What are you eating tonight?

That cheeseburger? Yeah. What are you having for dinner tonight? Right. Question. What are you drinking right now? What’s in your hand? And they’re like, oh, this little Slurpee from seven 11 you know? And I’m like, well, yellow number 9 ain’t gonna help, Darling. Do you know? So I think there’s a, there’s a really, really, this is one of the misconceptions, right? Then he, CBD is the new magic pill. It’s the new snake oil. We’re going to get instant results. And I see all over my commentary, oh, how do I know it’s working? Because I don’t feel high. Oh, how do I know that it’s working? You know, I don’t feel anything.

Alternative Cure with Complimentary Healthy Lifestyle

Sonia Gomez: And my question is, what do you have to do collaboratively? So if we agree that inflammation is sort of the starting point of disease or chronic illness, right, that’s going to be the first sign heat in the area, both on top or inside of the body is going to be the first sign that there’s something wrong. If you go past the point of no return, how can you use CBD effectively to start to restore some of that balance? And do you have to approach it from multiple angles?

Robin Swan: Well, um, that’s all a lie. You know, there’s like, okay, so using CBD every day I absolutely think is great because of its restorative quality to the nerve system. So, you know, if I had to pick between vitamin C and CBD, I think I probably picked CBD because of that restoration experience within the nerve system. All right? If I’m taking CBD and eating fast food every single day and second down, you know, a pack of cigarettes and drinking a gallon of soda, it’s like a wash because it’s just a plant, you know, it’s just a plant. I have this conversation with people about chemotherapy and using cannabinoids, you know, then I’m like, this is just a plant.

Robin Swan: It’s just a tiny little plant and you’re just a carbon base being, and this is a gigantic chemical that’s going to come in and annihilate everything. You know, you can’t organic fabric stuff, can’t stop hold up to chemical stuff. We’re not designed to, you know,

Sonia Gomez: and a lot of the stuff that’s in our foods right now, is even though chemical will go being cultivated, is genetically modified and chemically modified, chemically enhanced. And they’re favorite treats, right? They’re our favorite treats and needs. We swing through a fast food restaurant, we grab a soda on the way out the door. I mean.

Robin Swan: It’s real simple. Just stay out of the middle of the grocery store and you’ll be fine. Stay on the outskirts and we’ll be here. The obstacles to the grocery store, you’re going to be good. And then the other simple, a really easy rule of thumb is if you can say it, you can eat it. But if you can’t say it, don’t eat it. And if you’ve been as more than five or seven ingredients in it, there’s too many. There’s too many.

Robin Swan: So, you know,

Sonia Gomez: Keep your, again helped on phonics

Sonia Gomez: I was saying they better get hooked on phonics so they can start to pronounce them.

Robin Swan: 14 syllables for sure. Like, I mean like every letter in the alphabet twice. And what is that? Who makes up that name?

Sonia Gomez: Yeah.

Robin Swan: Anyways, that’s not the point of what we’re talking about, but you know, I’m a big proponent, so there, the real question is now, okay, so everyone’s flooding, this can happen A market CBD is everywhere, you know, and it’s like, oh, this is the best stuff. Well, not all of it is created the same for sure, because the growing standard is, it is different. Right? Like there was a product on the market called RHO so a while ago, I don’t know if they’re still standing hemp works or something.

Robin Swan: They kind of started this CBD Market. And what they had done is they had brought a bunch of stuff over from Holland and it just wasn’t clean and they couldn’t get rid of it. And they kept trying to rename it and then they made can away. And you know, I don’t know if they find they got through their 90,000-gallon bags of garbage by renaming and redistributing. But it’s really important that y’all know this. Okay. Just because if you can buy it on the shelf, it’s more than likely garbage period.

Robin Swan: You know, if you can walk into, Trader Joe’s has really high standards, so, but if you can get it at your local grocery store or at CBS, don’t, don’t, because that’s a lot of industrial hemps packaged as medicinal cannabis and it’s not. Now there’s a lot of medicinal stuff and hemp, you know, because it’s a natural antioxidant and it’s a natural anti-inflammatory, those two things are roof through the roof right away.


Just naturally by using, you know, a hemp-based product, you’re gonna raise your hand I accident level and you’re going to reduce the inflammation in your system. So it’s already a win-win. So if you cobble that with a cleaner diet, good water, sleep and a healthier lifestyle, one that’s not full of stress, you’re going to feel the benefits of it so much more than if you’re suckDBDing down a six pack of coke and driving through the drive-thru and waking up to some donuts and then you know, falling asleep with the, you know, four or five beers.

Sonia Gomez: Right? And I hate to say it but that is the Homer Simpson diet and that is a replica of Middle America. And so I really want you guys to consider what we’re saying re-watch module four and five where we’re talking about the multi-pronged approach. We’re talking about how to nourish the mind, the body, the spirit, becoming self-aware, adding things that help you practice self-aware care.

Robin Swan: These things are mandatory if you are truly trying to tap into your vitality and if you are being a representative of this product, we have an opportunity here to set ourselves apart from the rest, not pushed products but help people understand lifestyles that can write long term results for them. Ultimately, that’s what we have to represent here or we will turn into a synthetic pharmaceutical industry have because the bigs are very, very rich. They’re rich in resources. They’re rich and everything. And Canon, will try to take us over, but if we are ambassadors of the truth and really help push, you know, healthy living that is opening the gate and

Robin Swan: that’s what we all really want. I mean so much. One of my fights is one of the McDonald heiresses and I was visiting with her the other day and she told me that, and this is huge for the organic market. McDonald’s is going organic. That’s so huge. You know, McDonald’s controls, what is it, 85% of our food on the planet, they had to stop doing the Asian chicken salad because they almost destroyed the entire production of the edamame bean. they’re sincerely truth. Real true. So there are going holistic, they’re going, they’re going organic.

So you’ll be able to get organic food and got all their eggs or organic. Now on their bread will become organic. All their salads are going to be organic. So this is huge for us in the mainstream. It’s huge. You know, it’s saying that but why? Why does food need to be organic? It Is Organic. So for Mcdonald’s is a giant company to say we’re not gonna use chemically rich food we’re winning the Monsanto fight we’re winning.

Sonia Gomez: Yes. So I’m okay.

Robin Swan: Whether you’re rolling up 2020 so hold on. If it takes him five years to implement a product because they have said it, because that’s how big their impact is.

Sonia Gomez: Wow, that’s, that’s fantastic. And that’s really, really great news. No eating Mcdonald’s until the year 2020 yeah.

You Are Your Nerve System and You Cannot Feed It Any Other Way


Robin Swan: So when I started to process CBD, like I said, it was on some false information. But as I began to learn more about it, I really experienced how powerful it was by itself. You know, I like to call it clean Adderall because the thing was with cannabinoids in hemp is that they’re always sativas, so they’re always stimulating, which is great news for all of this. People that are really toughened stuck.

As I began to learn more about it, I really experienced how powerful it was by itself. - Robin Swan Click To Tweet

You know like the last thing I can, I can not, there’s no way I could take an indica based product at nine o’clock in the morning and function at [11:00] AM I’d be like in bed at 10, I’d be down, I’d be like thanks. Excellent. 15 minutes enjoyed it. I’ll see it soon. So CBD because it does not have, it’s like a terrific experience as THC does is able to just feed her nerve system. 

Just simply do that much and that, you know, you say that you know, oh that’s no big deal. Are you freaking kidding me? That’s no big deal. You are your nerve system and you cannot eat it any other way. You can’t like you can’t go drink a bunch of water and be like, hey fed my nerve system. 

You know, you can’t go take a 10-minute nap and be like bet my nerve system, you know, this is it. This is the only way because of the end of the cannabinoid system. The fact that it sits like it literally sits on top of the nerve system and it pulses into it. It feeds the nerve system that’s, it’s all job.

CBD Oil for ADHD: Can Cannabis Treat ADD Symptoms?

Robin Swan: It’s pretty fabulous. I think it makes me like, I’m going to dance around and like to have a party over it. Just simple thing. So I, I work a lot with kids who have autism and you know, and kids on the spectrum and I, and if anone’s listening to this who has those children, the only problem with them is that your not smart enough and quick enough to deal with them because they are rapid fire, they are moving, they process information a hundred times quicker than we do and they don’t need words.

So it’s very frustrating for them to have to slow down and tolerate us slow people who are not on the spectrum of moving in a thousand speeds of light. Right.So he could never noise.

Robin Swan: There are great for these kids because they put some space in their brain. That’s it. That simple. They slow down that rapid neuro firing enough for that child. One 36 it doesn’t matter. To be able to have that to slow down to get to our speed. I think that’s great. It’s great for us, you know, because then we’re not like Ah, you know, scared of them because they have so much to offer us and it helps them because that space in the brain gives them the ability to interact with people and even though they’re incredibly intelligent, they’re lonely because we need each other. We need that social interaction whether we like it or not, we still need to be able to sit down with somebody and have a conversation about something.

Sonia Gomez: Yeah.

Robin Swan: so take note. Teaching doesn’t do any of that, you know, just like it just doesn’t do that. The real powerhouse in the Cannabinoid structure, in the cannabis structure, is CBD as far as what it’s going to do for your body long term. He, he is very important roles, but we’re not talking about that right now. And I’m not saying that we don’t need it, but really on a day to day basis using the cannabinoids, CBD is where it’s at now. Yeah.

The real powerhouse in the Cannabinoid structure, in the cannabis structure. - Robin Swan Click To Tweet

Sonia Gomez: Yeah. I can hear that. Okay, so now that we aren’t all 13 that we are using that we need to be using it, that there’s multiple uses for it. There’s over 45 different conditions that have been listed as benefiting from the use of CBD products. Now it’s down to differentiating. You know, you started to talk a little bit about sourcing, let’s and we in our last interview with Dr. Emek Blair, he emphasized the power of sourcing so much. I think that we really get it.

Sonia Gomez: We have what we start with is what we’re going to end up with, right? So we really need a high quality source. When we’re talking to manufacturers or distributors, we want to know how to ask the right questions. You know, is it an organically sourced product? Is it grown with pesticides, does it have herbicides or are we using all natural stop?

Sonia Gomez: Can you really track the seed to sale process? But now there are products that gets a little bit more complicated. CBD isolate, CBD distillate or full spectrum. Can you talk a little bit about what the differences between them and what we should really be looking for and why?

CBD Isolate, CBD Distillate, and Full Spectrum: Their Differences and What the Truth Is About Them

Robin Swan: Okay. So just real simple should be looking for full spectrum CBD because that, first of all, you know, because it’s just CBD, it’s missing some of its molecular structure. So if you only have one arm, do you want to go without, you know, now do you only want three fingers?

Robin Swan: You know, so it’s kind of like the more we separate it, the less it really works in our body. Like, oh, there’s a lot of things that are happening in industry are just happening for money. You’re not happening because it’s a better product. This’ll lead is one of them because Oh, to see, oh, so then this whole conversation happened about how we can just get the CBD molecule and that’s what discipline is.

It’s just that one that mole at one, just that one molecule that’s CBD not CBG and not CBN be anything, just CBD. So when, uh, so like the isolet garbage and don’t buy it, that’s just, you know, start up. There’s nothing, I can’t, I can’t even find something inside of myself that would give me reason to suggest using it when they smoke. They put it on weed why, what are you doing?

It’s like making a speedball, you know, like that’s dumb. Like Jim Belushi died doing that. Don’t do that folks. Don’t do that. This is, I wanted to show you guys, this is what we call it crude. Okay. And uh, crude oil means that it’s, this is a secondary distillation. So we start out green with all the chlorophyll and then to make it just more just judges

Sonia Gomez: golden honey

Robin Swan: it’s just clear. It looks kind of like a snack. Okay. So honey, not smart the consistency of honey, which is sort of not like thought, but yeah, so it’s real. It’s just the cannabinoid profile of CBD. So I take this first, we first ready to do this, and this is a double process as far as, you know, going from a, a raw plant material that’s soaked through alcohol. I mean there’s just, there’s so many levels here. Where do you get, where you get, you know, CO2 is not the same kind of medicine that alcohol extraction is.

Robin Swan: So when you’re buying CBD product, you know, it isn’t, I don’t know if the labeling makes you say now that It’s CO2 extraction or not. I’m not shitting on us word. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s a sort of a way to label whore. And this is interesting because we definitely talked about the different levels of extraction we talked about distal it sort of being round two worth three where you’re removing plant matter and some of the chlorophyll and all of that stuff. So you’re getting this clear more, um, more honey-like substance or numbers, syrup. MMM. And we talked about decarboxylation and winterization and you know, all of these different processes. But Dr. Emek was saying, you know, CO2 is something that naturally occurs in the body, so you’d never have to worry about taking out some of the solvents. And I was thinking to myself, well, I really prefer ethanol or alcohol-based extraction.

Robin Swan: So I, I mean I’m not here to tell you why. So for people, just to make it really super easy to the difference between CO2 and alcohol is that CO2 presses thing with air, right? So it low, it destroys everything except for the acid that the temperature is set up to extract. So when they push everything through that air pocket there, they’re killing all the terpenes in the back panel of the plant and they’re just raising the asset of CBD or THC depending on what they’re, what they’re, you know, blowing or what they want to get. And then once they get it out of that, they still have to run it through a secondary system to take out the schmooze.

Robin Swan: There’s so much schmooze in a CO2 to run that they have to run it through a secondary dispersion call the short path to remove the fats, the waxes, they that and that ends up removing the tour beans. And then that ultimately again pushes the the acid of THC or CBD higher. So basically you strip it to nothing with CO2 and you get exactly what you’re looking for, which sounds great except for your body is designed for an entourage effect. It’s not one molecule.

Robin Swan: When you eated tomato, you don’t just have you’re getting the whole tomato know like you don’t just without the seeds. You know It’d be like when you buy a tomato imagine if you bought a tomato and there was nothing inside of it. Just hollow. That’s kind of what a c or two extraction like, like you still get the structure of the tomato, but there’s nothing in it.

Sonia Gomez: You can tell that you’re a treatment who talks to middle earth quite advanced this freaking mermaid coming out over here from her aspect.

Robin Swan: Well I mean like these are things that people can look in there

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Sonia Gomez: and now gees to help us understand and these are things that you should be sharing in your conversations with people. Not that you’re ever going to be asked this, but while you are an ambassador of CBD and this movement that is happening towards taking ownership of our health and well being, moving away from the enslavement of the pharmaceutical industry and the traditional medical system that has really only been designed to keep you, keep you taking their prescriptions, buying their insurance is this is not a treatment based system.

Sonia Gomez: This is a this is not a healing system or a cure based system. This is a treatment system. We want to keep you being treated. It’s not a good business model, you know, so that while you are an ambassador of holistic health and healing, using CBD as a tool to build sustainable income to you know, help your friends and family, you really need to understand this stuff and be able to explain it in a way that is easy and digestible for the person that you’re speaking to. So God bless you, Robin.

Robin Swan: it’s a little harder to find an alcoholic started a CBD thing, you know, it just, it just is. Colorado is great for it because Colorado kind of with the Stanley brothers, you know, and then really kind of pioneered that market and they kind of set the gold standard sort of on CBD products and there, I don’t know how Charlotte’s web is made now, but when they originally started making it, they were doing enough in all instruction with it. That was where they, where they started. So you know, things change. I hope they’re still there. And how do you find that? You’re just going to have to ask. No, that’s not going to be it. Right? A, you know, you’re going to have to spend a little bit more money for that because it doesn’t, it doesn’t pull the same, it’s not as, you know, cheap to make, you know,

Sonia Gomez: It’s going to be a little bit more of an investment. 

Robin Swan: you’re investing in yourself and the differences between an antioxidant and its actual medicine. So antioxidants are great, you know, eat hemp hearts, go to Costco, spend $5 you know, big ass bad. You know, that’s kind of when you’re buying industrial hemp as medicine, you are basically eating hemp hearts from Costco. So do that cause it’s cheaper but it keeps better and you can make him milk by just grinding them, you know, and squeezing them

Sonia Gomez: and soaking them in, squeezing them out. And we’ll show, I’ll show you guys some of that stuff when we cook cooking with CBD or some of our CBD smoothie recipes. I’ll show you some of the products that we use that our head based and I absolutely love them as a plant-based alternative to like fish oils and stuff like that. Cause the same thing happens there. They say natural but truth truthfully they are distilled down to nothing.

Sonia Gomez: So, um, I’m happy to share with you some of the stuff that we use and you guys are in luck because inside of our recommended products area or inside of our bonus section, every single product that has CBD in it has been approved and run through our tested by us, our team, our families. It is products that I have used, do use and willing to use on myself, my kids, my family members.

Sonia Gomez: Um, and I’ll have you know that because we’ve had a million followers almost every major company on the market places reached out to us wanting to sell us their products. I literally have a giant bin of stuff that I would,

Robin Swan: it is garbage and a lot of videos and a lot of it is stuff that I would never share with you.

Sonia Gomez: So if you just check out what’s inside of our recommended products list, we’ve taken out a lot of Guesswork, A Guesswork for you so that you can make a difference. Make a decision for yourself, invest in your, in your family’s health and your health and your business. However, you are choosing to utilize this information. It is right there for you along with some incredible resources. And Robin is actual products are actually going to be listed inside of there.

Sonia Gomez: So go ahead and check them out. They’re all inside of the recommended products and recommended readers list. Let’s talk about how much CBD you should take on a daily basis. Average Joe, I have seen 25 milligrams. I’ve seen 50 milligrams. I’ve seen. I’ve heard a hundred milligrams. There are thousand-milligram tinctures out on the Marketplace. I know that there’s a difference between active milligrams. I don’t wanna dive too deep into that of a general idea.

Robin Swan: So there’s a, here’s a general rule of thumb with all Cannabinoid. Okay. Five milligrams per hundred pounds, super easy. Everyone can remember that. Five-milligram dose per hundred pounds. So if you’re a 200-pound person, your suggested dose would be 10 milligrams. Do you see? So you can go up and down from that, but the suggested dose is five milligrams per hundred pounds.

Sonia Gomez: Wow. And what can somebody expect to feel one day, one week when?

Robin Swan: That’s the other great thing about CBD is that you don’t feel anything. Like people will say, well, I didn’t feel anything. And I’m like, oh, are you breathing? I’m like, well then something’s happening. Your feelings because it’s, it’s so like all of a sudden you notice, well I didn’t crash at three o’clock in the afternoon or I didn’t get that residual headache that I get every third day on Tuesday when my mother in law comes over, you know, or my knee didn’t bother me for three days, but nothing happened.

Robin Swan: Because when you’re not when the chronic pain is knocking on your door, you forget about it until all of a sudden you realize why I haven’t been in pain. So is the like, you know, is the heaven’s going to go off in your head? You know, I hope to shout not that means that there is something neurologically wrong with you. You know, what are you going to experience from using CBD? You’re gonna have energy. You’re gonna feel better. Your Andrew consistent is going to function like clearer. You’re the things that that fire off the sugars in your body. I’m losing the name of the system right now. I can see it in my head, but I can’t remember. It’s so sad.

Sonia Gomez: I have blood adrenal.

Robin Swan: Yeah. Your adrenals and Endocrin. Yes. Thank God. I had lots of charts behind the bud. Beautiful. not The end of the system. Yeah, it’s reducing the insulin yeah. insulin. That’s the word I’m looking for. Yeah, so it reduces the production of insulin. So this is how it helps diabetes. I mean, I have been good like who have just used CBD on concentrate, you know, and have gone off their diabetic medicines and less than a month, mindblowing, lost 60 pounds, didn’t really change much in anything but started adding, you know, 60 to 100 milligrams and do their their day and they lost 60 pounds

Robin Swan: because it brings your body into balance and as your body comes into balance, you don’t want to eat The Cheeseburger. You’re not looking to grab the chips and the candy bar at the checkouts on. You don’t have the same cravings and you’re not even like there’s nothing you have to give up because your body is now being fed. It’s now using your own fuel. Your fat cells are now burning inside of your body. You’re not looking outside of yourself trying to fix that sugar dip.

Sonia Gomez: Don’t say that too many times we’re going to have people like this with CBD.

Robin Swan: It’s really true though. You know, I mean it’s really just like it doesn’t, you know, does it address pain? Not so much. Not The way that you know other Cannabinoid profiles do. What it does do is it reduces the inflammation and that’s a huge piece.

Sonia Gomez: Yes. Yes. So what Robins talking about is when you are having an acute, you know, chronic pain attack, you know, some sort of knee or ankle or surgical or whatever that having, the presence of THC is necessary and very powerful when managing those more extenuating or life-altering circumstances. But if you’re looking to shift things at the source, cut them off at the head and re-established patterns in your body.

Sonia Gomez: CBD is a really great beginning point there. Any closing thoughts? Cause they feel like this is super powerful and a great place to sort of close this conversation. Let you guys know that there’s much, much more inside of our other courses in communities. But for the, for the subject matter in the CBD ambassador’s program, I think that this was a perfect bite off of a well-rounded meal here. So Robin, closing statements.

How Humans Are Designed to Receive Cannabinoids

Robin Swan: You know, eat your Cannabinoids every day, water and laugh, you know, how to say the best medicine is laughter. I said that all the time. Make sure you have a high level of laughter in your life. Get around people who have bad jokes and a great sense of humor and you’ll be just mean. 


Sonia Gomez: Thank you so much for tuning in with us for another bonus broadcast with one of our incredible industry experts and, and game changers who are working inside of this industry. On behalf of, on behalf of you, on behalf of me and everybody in this world who can benefit from the growth of this industry in the use of these plant medicines, there are so many beneficial plants are straight from our creator that have not even gotten the recognition that they deserve.

Sonia Gomez: And while this one is taking center stage, thank you so much. And we will pay homage to its, to its creators, to it’s medicine makers. Thank you so much for the work that you do in the industry Robin for being such a voice of truth, a source of compassion for the people who need understanding while they’re using this and pioneering for their own wellness.

Sonia Gomez: So I really appreciate that you guys make sure that you dive into our Facebook community. Let us know your thoughts and feelings on today’s interview, and also comment below. Let us know if you had any burning questions that did not get asked or answered here and we will be happy to address them in another interview. For now, I’m your host Sonia Gomez, and I will see you guys in the next show.


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