Joe Gelormino is a budding entrepreneur in the hemp-CBD industry. He is a super cool young buck at just 27 years old. He is the owner of Bone Creek Farm, an industrial hemp farm and CBD distributor. He is super excited and humbled to be a part of this incredible agricultural revolution.
Listen to this episode as Joe shares their challenges in growing and selling CBD in their first year and the lessons that he’s learning from it. Be inspired by his passion and commitment to creating quality and 100% natural harvest.
One of the biggest things for anybody that wants to get into hemp growing and stuff like this is finding a company to contract with that is very strong. – Joe Gelormino
Some Topics We Discussed Include:
[2:54] – Transition from Sales to the Hemp Industry
[5:03] – Doing Business with Family
[6:59] – Talking about finding a company to contract with that is very strong
[8:34] – Solutions to soil issues
[11:57] – Planting seeds vs. sprouts
[13:11] – Using the Department of Agriculture for testing
[14:10] – Things that they will improve next year
[14:57] – Main things to consider in choosing a farm
[15:43] – Methods of cultivation to help protect your environment
[17:14] – Issues and solutions to pests and fungus
[18:55] – The outpouring support of the community
[19:22] – Joe shares how CBD oil changed his grandfather’s life
[20:18] – Reason why they contracted with Fusion CBD and the benefits
[25:08] – Joe’s biggest concerns as a farmer
[28:25] – Joe’s business in college
[30:29] – Bone Creek Farm’s Product Suite
[31:58] – Three Advise for budding entrepreneurs
[34:22] – What Joe wishes he had
[35:16] – Where to reach him
[36:04] – Biggest issues inside the Facebook groups about Farming
People Mentioned / Resources
Connect with Joe Gelormino
Connect with Sonia Gomez
Sonia Gomez: What’s up everybody? This is another Rockstar episode of the hemp revolution. I’m your host and you love me. I’m Sonia Gomez and I’m coming in from the Denver Colorado. On today’s episode, we are going to be wrapping with a fellow farmer Mr. Joe
Joe Gelormino: Gelormino.
Sonia Gomez: Gelormino. God hooked on Phonics worked for me, who is a fellow farmer man and to have farm and CBD distributor. They have joined forces with fusion CBD and the New York hemp alliance in December back in 2018, who are helping them fulfill their mission in delivering top of line products while using their genetically blended hemp plants grown right there on their farm, fully vertical company. really super cool a young buck in the industry at just 27 years old, super excited and humbled to be a part of this incredible agricultural revolution. And while staying true to the aspects of the traditional farming that have brought this entire industry to life without further ado, guys help me bring my friend Joe on to the show. What’s up, Joe? How’s it going?
Joe Gelormino: What’s going on everybody? Hello, Sonia, thank you for having me on. And more importantly, thank you for doing what you do because there’s a lack of information in the hemp and CBD industry right now and it’s incredibly important what you’re doing. So thank you so much.
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, I’m stoked to be doing and it’s good fun. I get to hear all of the stories. I mean, I was a better career than just like talking my face off about cannabis and hemp all day long.
Joe Gelormino: I’ve been growing it.
Sonia Gomez: Not a bad good. I did that for a while too. And that was I like to get my nails done. So you know that I left that piece to my husband? Tell me a little bit. I want to dive like straight in and we were just having a little conversation about what you guys are doing and how surreal the whole process really is. But why don’t you give our audience a little bit about yourself, who you are, what your background is and what you’re up to right now or in New York.
The Transition from Sales to the Hemp Industry
Joe Gelormino: Okay, so a little background on me. I’m 27 years old. I’m new to the hemp industry. This is our first year growing and selling CBD. It’s pretty exciting. But I come from a background in sales. I’ve been in sales for six years I started in finance. I was doing life insurance, sales, and other financial products. Then I moved over to the shipping industry and I was doing logistics sales. I was a shipping broker for a little bit. And then I decided to start my own business doing hemp. There’s no turning back from here. I’ve been loving it so far. It’s awesome.
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, so you were talking about your farm being a small operation just to humble 4300 plants. So fucking big deal did 27 out there breaking back over the over a Miss Mary James cousins.
Joe Gelormino: That is true. And we learned a lot as I said, this is our first year so it’s we’re constantly learning not as easy of a plant to grow as we maybe initially thought there’s definitely a lot of things that are popping up that we’re managing so you definitely got to be out there every day. My dad likes to say putting a shadow over the field. So being out there and, and making sure that you’re maintaining everything properly.
Sonia Gomez: Man, you gotta stay neck and neck with those girls. That’s very much like having a controlling girlfriend. I used to laugh all the time with James because I was like men here you are married to me, but you got the craziest bitch outside. She’s outside, she’s taken all of your time, all of your energy, all of your money. And at any moment, she could just snap and the whole thing which is falling apart. Talk to me. And this is a really, I think it’s a common misconception people who are excited about the green rush, they want to be a part of the movement there. You know, maybe they’ve had some sort of transformation in their life that is drawing them into the green rush. And there’s this idea that it’s like, oh, it’s a weed, it grows everywhere. It has grown everywhere, this is going to be easy. And when in fact, you come across a plethora of challenges that are not only inevitable, but they’re undefined. You just never know what the weather is going to do what you know what your genetics are going to do? Are they going to burn hot? What’s the county going to do? It’s, it’s this constant push-pull me You never know if today is going to be the last day or if you’re going to make it all the way to the finish. Talk to me a little bit. Are you in business with your family?
Doing Business with Family
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, so my father’s actually my business partner. We I know it’s crazy, right? So he actually had the land up here. I live down near New York City almost. And when I talked to him, I was like, you know, I kind of want to use your land and start a hemp farm. He was actually hunting when this happened. So he was up in a tree stand sitting there and doing his research all day call me back about five hours later, he was like, let’s do it. Now we’re here. But like you were just talking about, you never know what the weather and everything there was just a major hail storm out in Oregon and some people that were growing hemp lost absolutely everything and you really just never know what can happen with the weather. It really is. You could just get flooded out at the beginning of the season when your plants aren’t really fully rooted in and it can wipe you out. It’s pretty tough. It can be tough sometimes
Sonia Gomez: Tell me a little bit about I want to hear about we’re going to get into the good stuff later. But with every reward comes a certain amount of risk. And you and your dad dove into this both feet Good job for being the millennial with foresight and bringing dad in awesome for dad who hasn’t about to backup his son like forget the fact that this is the cannabis and hemp industry, the fact that you have a dad who’s willing to back you up like that has to be so important in such an incredible thing for you right
Joe Gelormino: wouldn’t be able to do without him. He came from the plumbing industry. So he had his own plumbing business for 30 years. And that actually works really well with this as well when it comes to irrigation and stuff like that. He’s a major asset won’t be able to do that.
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, so cool. So I love family-owned businesses, one of my favorite stories to tell by when you guys were getting started, there’s a lot of things that are that you consider as a new business owner, where are you going to source your genetics? And what infrastructure do you need? How many of this or how much of that do you need to buy? What are the financial resources that you’re working with? Talk me through your guys’ planning as if I’m sitting at the board right now. I want to hear like what is what was it like to troubleshoot to develop your plan and getting in the ground first year.
Finding a Company to Contract With
Joe Gelormino: Okay, so one of the biggest things for anybody that wants to get into hemp growing and stuff like this is finding a company to contract with that is very strong. So we contracted with fusion CBD, as you can see from my hat. So they’ve been at it from the start. So they have strong genetics, the main thing is also cash flow, they need to have big cash flow so that they can pay you at the end of the season, because it’s not a small payment that we’re looking to get, hopefully, if everything goes properly. So the company needs to be strong financially and strong genetically. So we have their genetically modified plants that were growing here, that is supposed to be high in CBD, and low in THC. And then they do have a strong cash flow. So they actually moved from New York to Oregon, to start this when the whole movement started. So they’ve been in the game longer than most people have their education on the topic, and everything is definitely very high. So they’re helping us they gave us a whole list of everything that we need. And I would definitely recommend to anybody that’s looking to get into this to partner with a strong company to do this with.
Sonia Gomez: That’s a really super interesting perspective. So what you guys did was went out and you looked for a CBD company who was looking to increase their supply chains, and they’re already fully vertically integrated. So you just took ownership of a specific piece of that supply chain, which is the flower, the raw material, the biomass, you guys are becoming an artist and farm now this year, first-year out, you have two acres 4500 plans, how many 4300 plans, how many pounds Are you expecting to pull off of the farm
Soil Issues and its Solution
Joe Gelormino: pounds, you could look at maybe 123 pounds per plant is pretty standard. So we have plants that are all different sizes at the moment, we grew three different strains. And that has something to do with it. But also growing conditions had a lot to do with it. There’s like three different types of soil for the most part clay, sand, and silt, we actually have clay, which is probably the worst for this is this very tight and the roots don’t get a lot of oxygen. So we had some issues with one portion of our field due to the clay soil. And you could fix that by either adding manure and topsoil into the mix or doing a less tail. So we’re going to do all of that next year. So we’re going to add manure age horse manure into the soil with some topsoil, we’re going to mix it all in and it should really loosen it up giving the plants the oxygen they need to grow and give the roots a chance to spread, which is major.
Sonia Gomez: My husband was telling me when he was farming that, you know it really takes three runs to stabilize any one particular strain. And he used to do a variety of strains when he was growing, he would grow like you know, three, five handfuls, you know, a handful of strains. And as he opened up distribution channels, he really weeded out the ones that took more time and attention and created a whole system and standard of operation for the greenhouse or outdoor cultivation sites that would stabilize the end result. Not only did it reduces the amount of work that you had to do on the front end, by growing he just got committed to like two different strains. One was outside one was inside. And as all of that stabilize the yield the revenue, I mean, everything went in a hockey stick type growth just inside of one season. So you guys are in your first year you have a couple more runs to do. It’s going to take a little while to get that soil going just the way that you want to. But I have no doubt it’s just going to be absolutely incredible. And it’s like a whole ecosystem over there. You guys are really rich in horses. You guys have a tonne of resources to be able to do like a mutual benefit society. How are you pulling in or sourcing? Like are you just going straight to like feedlots or like where are you sourcing manures? Are you stimulating other business that way?
Joe Gelormino: It’s pretty simple because we have a horse farm across the street. He has piles to the sky of a new air which is great. Now horse manure isn’t the best manure to use for this. It’s actually cow manures actually a lot better because they have multiple stomachs so the digestion is much stronger so that there are less weeds that will come out of it. However, the horse manure across the street that we’re going to be using is aged so that that’s equally as good. So either use aged manure or cow manure. When it comes to actual fertilization chicken manure is the way to go because it’s very high in nitrogen so we’re going to be adding chicken manure to the mix preseason getting the soil ready with mixing in the manure and the topsoil I think about having a great impact on what’s going on here. But one of our strains didn’t do as well as the other two so are the Electra and our silver haze that we have growing are doing phenomenal. The Electric is getting a lot taller and Bushehr silver haze is staying smaller but fatter and they’re their budding a lot heavier. So I think we’re going to do away with the Hawaiian haze that we’re growing and stick mostly with the Electra and this overhead is probably
Planting Seeds vs. Sprouts
Sonia Gomez: nice. I can’t wait. And so do you got all of this strain stabilized? Did you just like throw a handful of seeds out into the grass or like how did you guys it? Was it clones or what do you guys do?
If you find a male growing in your field, you need to put a bag over it and chop it down and carry it out in a bag. That's how bad it can be. -Joe Gelormino Click To Tweet
Joe Gelormino: So I’m actually glad you brought that up because this is another big point that I’m talking to a lot of other hemp farmers as well. And there’s a couple around here as well. I don’t know if seeds are the best way to do it. But a lot of people do do it that way if you are going to do it that way do feminized seeds are the male plants are no good. If they pollinate the females, it could devastate your crop, we actually get our, their sprouts so we get small baby plants from Fusion who grows indoors in a greenhouse at first, and then we pick them up and put them in the ground already started, well, maybe five, one male out of every 4000 plants. And that’s major because I know people that are planting with seeds, and they’re getting half males to have females, the male no good, if you find a male growing in your field, you need to put a bag over it and chop it down and carry it out in a bag. That’s how bad it can be. Because if those pollen sacks pop and get on the females, it could, it could have a big impact on your yields.
Sonia Gomez: Okay. So talk to us about the impact of these Fermi little plants. Now,
Joe Gelormino: I can’t find as much information on that as I’d like. However, I do know that females will begin producing seeds. And that’s not ideal for CBD content.
Using the Department of Agriculture for testing
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, totally. Everybody wants seeds in there. in there, do you guys have a testing agency out there that comes out and make sure that you guys aren’t burning hot?
Joe Gelormino: Well, we’re using the Department of Agriculture. So they’ve actually already been here, once they came and took not a sample. But they wanted to know what strains were growing, it was actually pretty simple. They just came out like what strains you growing? Do you have your fences up and everything like that, because they do require that you have fences around the crop, video cameras on your fields, gates, posted signs, things like that. So they made, made sure that we were compliant with all those things, asked about the strains. And now we actually just sent our letter out last week to the Department of Agriculture, we need to give them three weeks before harvest to come out. And they’ll actually do some testing to make sure we’re not running hot. Let us know the CBD contents of all the plants after they’ve already approved us then we can go ahead and harvest. So you want to give them three weeks to a month’s notice to give them some time to get out before you actually end up picking anything. And yeah, that’s basically it though, they’ll come out and do their testing and hopefully, everything test good.
Sonia Gomez: So interesting. I have just like this gut feeling, you guys are going to end up pretty big what a second-year look like for you guys.
Main things to consider in choosing a farm
You want to make sure that there's a major water source because they do take a lot of water. - Joe Gelormino Click To Tweet
Joe Gelormino: So we’re already talking the second year. I mean, honestly, we want to change everything from our irrigation system to our soil, we’re working with a couple of other farmers that are local, that have a lot more land than we do, we’re only sitting on 10 acres, and we only farm two of them. We also have a house on the property that is sheds and everything that is taking up some of the space. So we have a lifelong farmer down the road that wants to give us some of this land where people have been throwing land at us left and right, we’re going to take this one guy up on his offer, and hopefully do over 10 acres. So you could imagine how many plants that’ll be number just yet he has river bottom soil, which is amazing. So he’s right on the Delaware River, that’s pretty much what we’re looking for. He has the water source as the Delaware River. And those are the two main things when you look, you want to make sure that the soil is good. And you want to make sure that there’s a major water source because they do take a lot of water. That’s actually why we named our company bone Creek because the creek running through our yard is bone Creek, and we dug it out into a reservoir. And that’s what fuels our plants.
Sonia Gomez: You’re absolutely right and saying that the water is a major, major consideration. And I know out in California, it was a huge challenge and the Emerald triangle because people were just dropping their hoses into the creeks and the rivers and pulling the water directly out. And then there was a tonne of runoff from, you know, fertilizers or whatever you’re putting into your plants that go back into the rivers and stream Lyft the conservation plan inside of your guys’ company, how are you guys protecting the environment? What are some of the methods of cultivation distribution, advise and provide you guys some of those resources to help protect your environment? How does that whole piece of it work? And what’s your consciousness around it?
Methods of cultivation to help protect your environment
Joe Gelormino: Well, it’s pretty simple. We don’t use any pesticides, any chemicals, anything like that everything is non-GMO, hundred percent natural, no sprays or anything like that everything is natural. So we’re not putting any chemicals into the field. So we should have no concerns about that at all. Everything is planted in the ground, and nature takes the rest
Sonia Gomez: and where are you sourcing your water from it do you just like you said the dugout part of the river or in created your own reservoir.
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, so we have a stream that runs through our property, which is bone Creek, and we just kind of dammed it up in one spot and dug a little bit and it constantly fills itself now and overflows on the other side. So we just put a pump in there, we have a little pump house next to the reservoir where we’re pulling our water out of and it’s running into our drip lines, which I also want to talk about because we had a little some issues with our drip tape as well that we’re fixing for next year. So we got a 12-inch drip line, which next year we’re going to do an eight-inch we think that the spacing was too far apart. So we want them to be a little closer. We’re also going to be raising 330 gallon totes up into the air about 10 feet on top of pallets. So the lines can be gravity fed. We also I think extended our lines a little too long. So we’re going to keep them at 100 foot Max and that should maintain pressure pretty well.
Sonia Gomez: You been doing this for a hot minute Did you grow and daddy didn’t know
Joe Gelormino: not at all. So this is all stuff that I picked up along the way. I mean that’s just the tip of the iceberg I mean it when you really out there it comes down to like there are issues with pests, you have issues with fungus is we got some powdery mildew that we had to take care of. And that’s no fun. You know, the airborne fungus is can be pretty tough. Anybody who gets an airborne fungus, potassium bicarbonate is the solution. They took me a while to figure that out.
Sonia Gomez: Man. This is so cool to hear your story. I’m just like so inspired by you. I remember. I mean, James was growing. And I’ll just keep referring back to him because I spent a season growing and I was just like, it’s hot. I’m gonna tell everyone’s story instead. James he was the bomb like he was creating champagne grade. I mean, just incredible medicine that was really transformational for the patients who were using it. I mean, like many of the farmers up there, California is sort of the mecca of where all of this started. 18 million pounds of cannabis were produced there but only 2 million states in the state. So as you can imagine, you New Yorkers were had it was a hungry crowd for the Cali kind, and so many other parts of the country as well. Not that I know anything about that. But I’m just to have heard stories. And you know, it’s, I guess if there’s a big contrast, right, some families are being brought together, like you and your dad and others are being completely ripped apart. You said that there are 500 Farms in New York alone. Are you having any experience from your community, your friends, colleagues or your or mainly in your dad’s generation that would have resistance to what you guys are doing right now?
The outpouring support of the community
Joe Gelormino: I have one person in the entire town that has a problem what we’re doing everybody has been so embracing of us. It’s amazing. Like they want us involved with everything going on in town is a small town. So word travels fast. But my one neighbor thanks for growing drugs. He just wants nothing to do with it. That’s not fun. And we he’s older. So he’s having a tough time understanding. But the funny thing is he could probably benefit from what it is that we’re doing here more than anybody. And speaking to the older generation. My grandfather was actually one of our first customers with CBD oil. He’s 77 and he was diagnosed with diabetic nerve pain or neuropathy of his feet. So yeah, he used to walk around the block every morning. And with the pain of in his feet, he could barely walk around like his apartment. So he started taking the oil and the impact that it had on him was pretty. He began walking again with zero pain in his feet and his anxiety. He had crazy anxiety and it vanished completely. My sister just got married. You should have seen him. He was up working in the room. It was like wow, this is this stuff’s working on him. And he feels amazing. Now he swears he feels 20 years younger. It’s crazy. Oh,
Sonia Gomez: You have a family of your own?
Joe Gelormino: No, I’m single, single and just farming
Sonia Gomez: single ready to mingle. I love it. Ladies, go ahead and just submit your emails here, we’ll have an application. Just kidding. So you said you got all it? I loved what you said and me and on one hand I hear from entrepreneurs like no partners. No problems is a motto for sure. Entrepreneurs now for you as a budding entrepreneur, and no pun intended for you as a budding entrepreneur, though you guys selected to go with an established company that would offer you so keys, genetics, all of the things, and you just take ownership of this one simple position. So what brought you to that conclusion? Did you do extensive research? What were you? What were your main considerations in selecting that? And then I’m going to ask you about what kind of resources you got. Like what are some of the details of your arrangements for people who are listening to this and trying to figure out what to do with their legacy farms then how they can make this but hold and talk to me about your considerations and picking this as a method?
The Reason Why They Contracted with Fusion CBD and the Benefits
Joe Gelormino: Well, the reason that we contracted with the company, and at all was because we we kind of had to it was previously illegal in New York State to do this. There, we were going to be operating under a pilot program of 60 Farms in New York State, the farm bill passed and it opened up for everybody. So we were originally working with fusion to operate under their license as one of the 60 Farms in New York State. And then we ended up getting our own license because we had to. So before this, we wouldn’t have been able to grow this year, previous to the farm bill passing if it weren’t for fusions license. So we contracted with them originally, just to get this done. But now I mean, we love working with fusion, and we’re going to continue working with fusion. So we’re sticking with it.
Sonia Gomez: So you made the decision to move in with fusion, what were some of the biggest benefits that they brought to the table for you guys, as a startup?
Joe Gelormino: Well, they have a hub in Warwick, which is about an hour from us where we can pick up all our products, we can talk genetic, we could talk about the plants and any issues that we’re having. So they’re pretty local to us. There are their major operations out in Oregon, but they have a greenhouse operation here, there, they’re nearby, we can go pick up our products rather than having them shipped to us. And any issues that come up, we can go right therewith as well as dropping off our plants when we harvest.
Sonia Gomez: Nice. So you guys just chop it down and take it over there. And they deal with all of the biomass from there,
Joe Gelormino: we’re going to end up doing that. But I mean, it is a little sketchy to drive around with this stuff still, because I mean, try explaining that to somebody that attempt not marijuana, but I don’t know what a better way of doing it. So we might have to just do it. I mean, that’s part of being a pioneer in the industry is taking those risks. So
Sonia Gomez: say you live in a small town, what if let’s just have a what-if scenario and have fun with this for a second? What if you call the cops a couple days before harvest? And you’re like, Listen, I’m about to chop my stuff down, come check it out. It has here been my certificate of analysis to show our, you know, all of our staff that we’re compliant, this is not in fact, cannabis. And we will be transporting it from point A to point B, can we get an escort? Would you do that? How would your what would the temperature from the local law enforcement be?
Joe Gelormino: Well, that’s a good question. I’m really not sure, To be honest, I that that’s not a terrible idea. We’re definitely ironing out those details in the coming weeks. I’m gonna definitely gonna talk to the Department of Agriculture when they’re here in a couple of days and see what their thought is on it. Because they’re the ones really running the show here. So whatever their recommendation is, will probably go with
Sonia Gomez: what happens if your crop burns hot,
Joe Gelormino: there’s really not much you can do. I know that fusion has ways of diluting it. But I mean, if it gets too hot, it’s too hot. That’s why harvest is key. You really got to monitor your plants to make sure that they’re not being overgrown because then they will grow hot. And you can have some issues for sure. You want to put in all the work all season and then and then have your plants with too much THC. That’s no good for anybody.
Sonia Gomez: What and so the mark that you have to hit while they’re on the vine is less than point 3%. Still,
Joe Gelormino: I believe so. Yes. But like I said, the Department of Agriculture is going to come and do their tests with what they come back with is what we’re going to go with.
Sonia Gomez: Okay. So they’re going to come in. And I know because I’ve been on many farms on the day that the VOA comes in, and they’re like, you’re a little bit hot, you have to destroy your entire crop. Is that a reality out there as well?
Joe Gelormino: Yes. And now they say that harvest is good in October if you plant in June, harvest in October. So we’re still well, it’s just the end of August, beginning of September now. So we sent it out early to get them here before any of those issues start to pop up. So have them come through their testing earlier than later, is always a good thing.
Sonia Gomez: I’d be having them come in and like Jim six.
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, exactly.
Sonia Gomez: So we’re about three weeks out from
Joe Gelormino: seriously, seriously.
Sonia Gomez: I know they’re only three inches high. Don’t worry about that with some method.
Joe Gelormino: But now, please, we’re planting as late as July which I found crazy. So I don’t know. Everyone’s all over the place this year. I think it’s going to start evening out as the years’ pass.
Sonia Gomez: What is one of your biggest concerns as a farmer and watching how quickly everything is happening? Are you concerned about saturation? Are you concerned about relevancy? And in size? What are some of the major concerns that keep you up as at night as a first-year farmer in the hemp space,
Joe Gelormino: everything, all the above, there’s a lot of unknowns, we don’t know where the market values going to go for this stuff. For all we know, it could be 10 times more than last year, it could be 10 times less than last year. And the thing is really nobody knows it does seem like the back end of the industry, the CBD oil and all that stuff is huge and expanding. They’re saying that’s going to be a multi-billion dollar industry. So I think that the demand is there. But now like I said, we’re already one of 500 Farms in New York State. So that’s growing rapidly as well. I don’t know if there’s going to be too much raw material or not enough raw material. But definitely the price of sale is going to be is what I’m worried about most is I don’t know where it’s going.
Sonia Gomez: So what are you looking for the first year? What is the value per acre
Joe Gelormino: The rule of thumb, they say around 60,000 per acre, but then again, based off what I mean, it’s based off your CBD content. It’s based off your pounds per acre. It’s your yield, essentially. I mean, there’s a lot of factors that go into it. So putting a number on that is is really hard to do. We are rolling the dice here. That’s what it is. I mean, in order to get into the industry and just get plants in the ground, you kind of just got to go for it. And that’s what we did is you’re never going to get an answer on that question.
Sonia Gomez: We get Ambika homeless. I mean, that’s, that’s everything right there. That’s a lot of time. It’s a lot of money in it. And it’s not only yours, but it’s the family too. So what about your dad? What is his? He’s been in this for a long time, he knows about running a business, he especially knows about running a compliant business. What’s his take on this whole potential drop out?
Joe Gelormino: Well, he was ecstatic about getting farm status. So he has the tax benefits that he loves. But if he didn’t have the land, and the tractor would be significantly behind like those if it weren’t for those, I don’t think we’d be operational because a tractor alone can run you 40 $50,000. So having the land and the tractor was what made this really all possible. If he didn’t have that we wouldn’t be talking that that really significantly decreased startup costs making this possible. He’s very excited about what we’re doing. And he’s into it for sure.
Sonia Gomez: Do you ever catch him looking at you from across the field just like my baby boy?
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, I think we both have a couple of looks at each other like that, for sure. It’s a funny man. You know, if you spoke to us five years ago, you would have never known we’d be doing this. So it’s definitely different.
Sonia Gomez: What’s so different? And what’s different in the conversation? I mean, the cannabis industry and conversation and movement have been happening for a while just in the last three years hands has been booming. You were in industries where I mean, quite frankly, the shipping yard where that is utilized for a lot of black market transit. There’s, you know, sale. I mean, just in every aspect of this, every industry has been infiltrated. There’s a lot of people making the corporate the cannabis john, what was it for you? What, why, what did you see? And why did you pick it?
Joe Gelormino: I wanted my own business always have, I did have a small business in college that paid for, you know, food and stuff like that
Sonia Gomez: What was your small business,
Joe’s Business in College
Joe Gelormino: I reached out to a company that was actually in Colorado where you guys are located. And I started selling some of their t-shirts. They had interactive led t-shirts. So you could take a laser pointer and draw on the shirts. So it was definitely different. It was pretty sweet. And so I emailed them and I got involved with them. And I started selling their shirts all over campus and putting the frat letters on it and stuff like that. That’s how I paid for food and fun in college. But then, transitioning from sales to this, I think the sales are going to help with the CBD sales because we’re doing wholesaling as well. So we’re meeting with companies and trying to get our products on the shelf. We popped up a couple of sides and like even the newspaper came and did a story on us. It’s pretty crazy, have you? So the support has been amazing.
Sonia Gomez: You gotta be so proud of yourself, what are your other friends doing?
Joe Gelormino: So my friends are pretty successful. They’re doing their things, a couple of them are in finance a couple of them doing some shipping stuff as well. So they’re doing well also, they would have never thought I’d be moving up to the country to be a farmer though that that that took everyone by surprise.
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, I’m sure it is. I’m looking at my 16-year-old and you know, like some people everyone’s like, Oh, I’m so proud of my kids, my kids fucking I’m nearly annoyed. Because they’re over performer. They can’t just be like an average athlete. They’re like the over-performing, you know, just crazy, academic, athletic. They’re just amazing kids. And I’m like measuring them up next to their friends. And I’m like, man, we need to marry you up, right? To marry you. These guys are not doing nearly what you’re doing. And it’s refreshing to see young people who are surrounding themselves with other folks in your peer group who are also high performers. That’s going to make all the difference for you. If you’re just taking care of so much of the hard stuff. Are you wholesaling fusion products, knowing that your plant manager is going into them and what are the What does the product suite look like?
Bone Creek Farm’s Product Suite
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, so they do all the processing of the hemp out in Oregon. They make their products and then they send them out to Warwick where we pick them up. Because we’re a partner farmer them we get all their products at a good price and then we retail them or wholesale them. The product suite pretty much is we have three different types of tinctures so we have 500, 1000 and 2000 milligram oils. We have two different types of creams. So we have a pain cream, which is our sab and then we have a moisturizing cream, which is good for stuff like psoriasis. We also have two different types of soap. We have roll-ons for headaches and migraines, topical sprays that are good for pain. Also, we have smoke. Well, we have obviously the hemp flower. So we have four different strains of hemp flower as Yeah, that stuff’s good. And then we have four different blends of hemp cones. So those are pre-rolled hemp cones that you can smoke on, which are nice. And yeah, I think that’s about everything. We also do non-CBD and hemp-related farm stuff. So we have eggs that we have chickens, chickens, and eggs every day. And then we make all-natural honey and syrup.
Sonia Gomez: So you got honey,
Joe Gelormino: no, no, no hemp involved. That’s just regular honey, regular honey, regular syrup,
Sonia Gomez: are you going to infuse your honey with hemp?
Joe Gelormino: It’s actually I believe, illegal to do that. I think I don’t think that you can use CBD as an ingredient. But the laws are very, very hard to distinguish. So we’re going to stay away from anything infusing wise. But yeah, I believe that could be an issue.
Three Advise for Budding Entrepreneurs
Sonia Gomez: So for the budding entrepreneurs who are listening in right now, and they’re inspired, and they’re motivated, and they’re young, and they’re light, and they’re hungry, and they’re listening to you right now super excited about what you’re doing. And they want to do it to give them three pieces of advice that you would offer somebody who’s looking at getting into the industry or is getting their toes wet and wants to jump in with both feet. Okay,
Surround yourself with people that have general farming knowledge because that that somebody who's been farming for years could have easily told us the beginning the season, our soil was no good. - Joe Gelormino Click To Tweet
Joe Gelormino: number one partner with a good company, like I was talking about before. So a company that’s been in the hemp industry for a while has the cash flow to pay number to surround yourself with people that have general farming knowledge because that that somebody who’s been farming for years could have easily told us the beginning the season, our soil was no good. Or drip tape was no good stuff like that. And number three is to be passionate about it. You got to be out there every day, you know, you can’t just plant these plants and not be out there because you leave them for a week and they’ll be needing something whether it’s nutrients, water, anything like that. So you got to really dedicate to it.
Sonia Gomez: What are you looking forward to most this year?
Joe Gelormino: harvest actually, because there’s a lot of unknowns with harvest, we want to see how much we actually get out of this field. We want to see there’s a lot of stuff going on. We gotta we just ordered this morning, actually these industrial dehumidifiers, so we got to dry out all of our products. It’s crazy. There’s a lot of stuff going on around harvest. So that’s the most exciting part of the year.
Sonia Gomez: Hell yeah. I would have said the paycheck.
Joe Gelormino: That, too, that, too
Sonia Gomez: man, it’s just worked so hard all year. And, you know, there’s so much at risk, you’re putting in so much time and effort all the way through and that you get all the way to that up to that final moment. And even to the point where you’re like passing the cash from one side to the next or passing that paycheck from one side to the next. It’s so nerve-wracking because you’re like, anything could go wrong, you know, and yet it all goes right. And it’s such an incredible thing to celebrate.
Joe Gelormino: Yeah, and if it weren’t for our CBD store that we have on the property, we built this tiny little CBD store if it weren’t for that we you know, that really fueled a lot of our purchases for the farm equipment. So like I said, we had the tractor and everything but we threw up some signs all over town and people just started showing up buying CBD and telling their friends about it because they had such great results. So five of their friends would show up and we started in December it’s now September and we have over 200 customers and most of them are repeat customers so it’s amazing. It’s not working.
What Joe Wishes He Had
I wish I had a professional farmer here with me to teach me the ins and outs of actual general farming because that would have gone a long way we did 10 times more work this season than we had to because we were fixing problems that we caused ourselves… Click To Tweet
Sonia Gomez: Let’s say I have a magic wand right now and I could grant you any wish complete this sentence for me. I wish I had
Joe Gelormino: I wish I had a professional farmer here with me to teach me the ins and outs of actual general farming because that would have gone a long way we did 10 times more work this season than we had to because we were fixing problems that we caused ourselves or stuff like that. So I mean we were really working in circles and we did a lot more work in that field then we will be next year
Sonia Gomez: So what you’re saying is if you had the opportunity to you know hire in or work with a consultant to kind of shortcut that that would have been a solid investment for you guys
Joe Gelormino: yeah cuz I mean my father or and I were either farmer so we come from completely different industries. I think we did pretty well for coming into this pretty cold but I mean the amount that I learned this year’s next year should be a breeze
Sonia Gomez: I absolutely love this is like my favorite my absolute favorite story where can people find out more information about you guys in your farm
Connect with Joe
Joe Gelormino: so you definitely follow us on Facebook or Instagram so on Facebook is bone Creek farm Instagram is bone Creek hemp farm and then you can visit our website which is bone Creek farm com
Sonia Gomez: so we any final words for listeners,
Joe Gelormino: anybody that is interested in this or needs more information from me messaged me on any of those three platforms and I will talk with you because like I said at the beginning is there’s a lack of information in the hemp industry and getting it out there is very important. Also, follow some of the hemp farming communities on Facebook ’cause I’m in a community with over 3500 farmers that are all communicating posting pictures of their plants, issues that they’re having and everyone’s helping each other that way which is very important helped me a lot
Biggest Issues Inside the Facebook Groups about Farming
Sonia Gomez: what are some of the bigger issues that you’re seeing with them inside the group? So is it consensus and you know, stabilizing strains are you know, mill dues? Or like what are you saying? Or is it demographics specific
Joe Gelormino: number one is identifying male versus female plants everyone seems to be like because no one wants to rip their plants out of the ground. So they’re like, it makes sure that this is a male 100% before I pull it, so they want to that is a big one. And then pests and fungus are very big. So being able to post a picture of your plant with fungus on it and then having 15 other farmers say okay, that’s this and give you a solution that could save your harvest. And that’s how I found out that we had powdery mildew because we didn’t know what it was.
Sonia Gomez: Wow, wow, that’s so incredible, live some good resources for you as far as consultants go, who are in your area, also some retail opportunities that I could connect you within your area as well and always looking for ways to that I can support your guys’s in your budding businesses. This is just such a passion of mine My life was completely transformed through this incredible plant and its derivatives. So anything and everything that I can do to help you guys grow and stabilize and, you know, we’re I’m totally open please lean on us for the resource.
Joe Gelormino: Thank you so much. That means a lot.
Sonia Gomez: Yeah, absolutely. Hey guys, I’m so grateful to you guys for listening in one more time. And it’s incredible to see the transformation of how this plant how this industry is bringing families together fathers, sons, daughters, and mothers, we are seeing such incredible work being done. And it’s so important that we are informed and educated from soil all the way to sale the work that goes into the back-breaking work that goes into producing just the raw material that will go into a stabilized solution that will, in fact, transform the way that you feel and function on a daily basis. It’s so important to understand that everything and everyone that is being created and being cultivated here in this industry right now deserves its special piece of attention. So Meanwhile, while you’re out there farming, harvesting or enjoying the plants, be safe. Take care, make sure that you’re getting it from a reputable source, support your local communities and get involved get out there in the into your community and get involved with with the movement in the mission to bring safe, high quality products to be accessible to those of you who need it and wanted if you want more information about how you can join the green rush movement. Check us out at the Emerald circle. com If you’re a patient whose lives being transformed, we want more information on how this can work for you. Check us out on medical secrets calm and we’ll see you on the next episode of the hemp revolution. Thanks so much for your time today. Joe was so excited to meet you.
Joe Gelormino: Thank you for having me. Thanks for listening, everybody. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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